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Briterne skubber på for krige i Mellemøsten,
for at afspore fremvoksende samarbejde
mellem de Fire Magter.
Helga Zepp-LaRouche i Schiller Institut
Webcast, 17. maj, 2018. Engelsk udskrift

Briterne skubber på for krige i Mellemøsten,
for at afspore fremvoksende samarbejde
mellem de Fire Magter.
Helga Zepp-LaRouche i Schiller Institut
Webcast, 17. maj, 2018. Engelsk udskrift

Introduktion: I oktober måned, 2009, talte Lyndon LaRouche på Forum for Dialog mellem Civilisationer på øen Rhodos, hvor han fremlagde konceptet om, at en aftale mellem fire, ledende magter – USA, Kina, Rusland og Indien – kan danne grundlaget for at skabe et nyt, globalt kreditsystem til at erstatte det håbløst bankerotte, transatlantiske finanssystem, der på spektakulær vis krakkede det foregående år. I løbet af de seneste år er dette potentiale, under ledelse af Kinas præsident Xi Jinping, begyndt at antage konkret form. Med valget af Donald Trump til præsident i 2016, og som for en stor dels vedkommende skyldtes hans afvisning af hans forgængeres politikker for krig og finansspekulation, sås det, at han var parat til at tage skridt til at bevæge USA til at gå med i denne aftale.

Dette alene forklarer de desperate handlinger imod ham, med begyndelse i de svindelagtige Russiagate-beskyldninger, som var brygget sammen af britiske efterretningsnetværk og Obamas efterretningsfolk. Det forklarer også indsatsen for en skarpere konfrontation mellem USA og Rusland og Kina, inkl. Spripal-affæren og anklagerne om de kemiske våben i Douma, under falsk flag. De seneste, farlige handlinger fra Israels Netanyahu-regering mod Syrien, Iran, Libanon og palæstinenserne, og den fortsatte folkemorderiske krig, som saudierne fører imod Yemen, er alle en del af den samme deployering for at bruge krig til at stoppe konsolideringen af LaRouches idé om en Firemagtsalliance.

Helga Zepp-LaRouche har sagt, at det eneste, der kan stoppe denne dynamik for de Fire Magter, der har vundet frem omkring Kinas lederskab og Bælte & Vej Initiativet, er krig. Krigsfremstødet, der kommer fra Storbritannien, må nedkæmpes! Hør fr. LaRouche kommende torsdag for den seneste opdatering om denne kamp, og hvad du kan gøre for at sikre, at Imperiet og dets geopolitiske vanvid bringes til en afslutning.


Engelsk udskrift:

  British Push Mideast Wars to Derail Emerging Four-Power Cooperation

Schiller Institute New Paradigm Webcast, May 17, 2018
With Helga Zepp-LaRouche

HARLEY SCHLANGER:  Hello, I’m Harley Schlanger from the
Schiller Institute. Welcome to this week’s international webcast,
featuring our founder and President Helga Zepp-LaRouche.
Over the last weeks Helga has been emphasizing the
deployment by British Imperial geopolitical interests out to
wreck the promising potential that’s emerged in
Eurasia, and especially around the recent developments of a
potential peace agreement with North Korea.  Helga’s repeatedly
emphasized that this looks a lot like sleepwalking into World War
I and in fact, with the events that just took place in Gaza, in
the last couple of days, the massacre there by Israeli soldiers,
the threat for the situation to break out of control, obviously,
Helga, this looks like this is a potential kind of pre-war kind
of deployment to disrupt the emergence of this four power

HELGA ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  Yes, I think what has happened around
Gaza in the last days is really a tragedy.  Obviously, it
coincided with the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem,
which I think was an unnecessary and provocative thing to do.
But the situation in the Gaza is an open-air jail; it’s a new
Warsaw Ghetto.  If you look at what has happened there — OK, I’m
not excluding, that there are some violent Hamas elements, who used
the fact, that people are generally upset about the conditions.
Basically, you have a very tiny area, of the size of the
city-state of Bremen in Germany, which is very small, where 2
million people are crowded.  They have no money for food, they
have only a few hours of electricity, they have no clean water,
and no medical supplies, which now, after 61 people were shot and
killed, and 2,700 wounded became a real nightmare, because you
had all these wounded people who were not treated.
So people have been demonstrating, and the Israeli IDF and
special snipers shot into the crowd, which was completely
unnecessary.  If you want to dissolve a crowd, you can use water
throwers, you can use such other means — you don’t have to shoot
people dead.  So, this has inflamed the situation and as I said,
after a day of mourning and funerals, now the thing is not
stopping.  The Israelis are firing airstrikes at installations of
the Hamas in Gaza.
This could easily lead to an escalation where you have a war
between Israel and Hamas, Hezbollah, potentially Iran, and then,
from there it goes to a big war. This is a terrible situation.
And I should remind people that what is happening in this area,
even though it’s not in the spotlight of the mass media, when you
had the Oslo Agreement, which was in 1993, already at that time,
the Palestinians were supposed to get only 25% of the territory
of Palestine, and the Israelis would get 75%.  But in the
meantime, 60% of the so-called West Bank of Jordan has been
occupied by settlers, so there’s only 40% left, and this is
really becoming a very dire situation, and obviously the aim, and
several people have said that, the aim is to demoralize the
Palestinians in such a way that they give up and just quit, which
won’t happen.
You have a situation, where the Jewish population is
becoming quickly a minority and you cannot maintain a rule a
hostile population which outnumbers you in such ways:  We saw
that in other occasions, such as in South Africa, it didn’t
function, and it will not function here.
So even if you don’t have an escalation to a big war, you
have Hell!  And I have been saying this, and naturally my husband
has been saying it for decades:  You need economic development.
Because if you have a lot of young people in Gaza and elsewhere,
who are growing up, being 14, 15, 16, and already at that time
have the feeling they have no future, it is a chain of violence,
an escalation of violence is pre-programmed.
We have been making the point, the whole time, that while
you have Christian fundamentalists in the United States who think
that an early Middle East war is a good thing — I have heard
such people talking like that.  The reality is that the Middle
East, Southwest Asia, has been the playground of British
Imperialism, and at a certain point also French Imperialism,
which basically have treated this region as a region for proxy
wars for their own geopolitical interests.  This was demonstrated
in the Sykes-Picot Treaty of 1916, which carved up this region in
ways which was the seed for future conflicts.  And right now, you
can see very clear, the aim is to get a confrontation with Russia
— Iran — but, Russia, China, and that way prevent the
possibility of a cooperation in a New Paradigm.
My husband has said this many times; emphatically he has
made speeches about it at international forums, that the only way
how you can break this terrible nightmare of violence and horror
is by having a Four Power agreement among the United States,
Russia, China, and India, and that way, you have enough people
and enough military, political, and economic power to end the
British Empire and their ability manipulate the situation.
This has to be put on the agenda, because if it’s not, the
danger is, that this thing spirals out of control, and already
now it’s a terrible nightmare and a tragedy for the people who
are suffering these situations.

SCHLANGER:  You mentioned the Sykes-Picot Agreement which
was a perfect example of the British geopolitical deployment that
led to World War I, and then the immediate period afterwards
where the British were moving in, to try to replace the
collapsing Ottoman Empire and establish what the British call the
“Middle East” today, a bridge that they could control between
Asia, Africa, and Europe.
These geopoliticians are on the march, they’re threatening
— in Israel you have threats against Lebanon, Israeli strikes
on Iranian positions in Syria.  But, Helga, I think the important
thing for people to understand, is you emphasis and your
husband’s emphasis on a bigger picture agreement, which would be
that of the great powers.  None of these small states can
maneuver effectively within this.  How is this that you could get
an agreement?  Isn’t this a perfect opportunity for Trump and
Putin to get together and sit down and talk about it?

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  Yes.  I think that that particular move.
They did agree on the telephone to have an early summit.
President Trump even invited Putin to come to the White House.
And given the extremely difficult factional situation in the
United States, and anti-Trump, Russiagate coup attempt, which is
completely falling apart, but it’s still not officially
acknowledged, and it needs to be gotten through in terms of
putting the culprits of this coup in trial instead.
Given these difficult and complex situations, I think that
if this summit between Putin and Trump would take place as
quickly as possible, and take all the time needed to discuss and
develop flanks to the situation, I think that is the one thing
which could cut through all of this and create new options.  I
think we should all wish, and speak out, that such an early
summit would occur.

SCHLANGER:  We also see the great potential on the Korean
Peninsula, somewhat set back by these comments by Bolton, the
national security advisor, comparing North Korea to Libya, which
is an unmistakable reference for anyone in North Korea that the
threat that, when Qaddafi went along with an agreement to get rid
of his nuclear weapons, less than a decade later, Obama, Cameron,
Sarkozy and Hillary Clinton went in and destroyed the country.
What’s your sense of where things stand now, following the
statement from North Korea of the cancellation of the North
Korea/South Korea summit that was supposed to take place, I think
today; what’s your sense of where this is heading?

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  I think it is a dangerous phase.  It’s not
yet hopeless, because after this North Korea/South Korea summit
was cancelled, the State Department said the United States still
assumes that the summit between Trump and Kim Jong-un will take
place on June 12 in Singapore.  And there were rumors in the
Japanese papers that maybe even Xi Jinping would participate in
such a summit.  So this is not yet off the table.  And the Deputy
Foreign Minister of North Korea, whose name is Kim Kye-gwan, he
made a very clear distinction between the statements and the line
of Pompeo and Trump; and Pompeo was in North Korea came back and
reported very respectfully and very positively about Kim Jong-un
and Trump clearly has taken up a very respectful tone towards Kim
Jong-un as well.  However, Bolton — and this Deputy Foreign
Minister made this distinction very clearly — Bolton in, I don’t
know if it was just being unclever or deliberate, I have no way
of saying, but to tell the North Koreans that the model of the
denuclearization proposal by Kim Jong-un will following the Libya
model!–I mean, you cannot say something worse.  Because if you
remember, Libya, Qaddafi, turned over all of Libya’s nuclear
weapons and then the result was, he was overthrown and killed,
and the country has been in complete chaos ever since, basically
ungovernable to the present day.
This Deputy Foreign Minister basically said they will never
accept such a model, obviously, and that North Korea is proposing
something which is not to be taken as a weakness, but it is
actually an effort by Kim Jong-un to solve a very untenable,
terrible situation, but it’s not a sign of weakness.  And it
cannot be done by unilateral commands from the side of the United
States, but it has to occur in a trustful atmosphere of dialogue
and cooperation.  So, since I think that President Trump is
intending to do that, I don’t think it’s completely in danger,
but there clearly is a cloud over the horizon.
And obviously the events in the Middle East also have a
peripheral impact, namely the question which is being raised by
many people, if the United States can rip apart the nuclear
agreement with Iran, which was a negotiated agreement, it took 12
years, many nations were involved, the United Nations approved
it, so if you unilaterally get rid of such an agreement, you
know, it also puts a question of doubt on the reliability of the
United States in general.
All of this means we are really in a very dangerous
situation.  And, for example, there was just a new poll, where by
now, 57 % of all Russians are convinced that the crisis in Syria
will lead to a global war.  Now, I hope not, but the air is full
of worry, about war, and people who are concerned about this,
they should help us to mobilize to bring in the alternative:
Which is the cooperation among nations for a win-win cooperation
overcoming geopolitics.  And the potential clearly is there.  I
think a lot of good things have happened: The rapprochement
between China and Japan; careful steps in this direction between
China and India; clearly a good relation between Japan and
Russia; Trump clearly has stated his intention to keep, despite
all trade issues, a good relationship with “his friend Xi
Jinping,” as he always calls him; and there is the pending summit
between Trump and Putin.
So all the potentials are clearly there, but it is also
clear that as the Western financial system is in absolute mortal
danger of a new blowout, the risks to the situation cannot be
overstated, and make every intervention in the direction of
solving these problems with the Four Laws proposed by my husband,
extremely urgent.  So I would call on all of you that you should
get in contact with us, you should become a member of the
Schiller Institute, you should help us to put the Four Laws of
Lyndon LaRouche on the agenda, because they’re not only needed in
the United States, they’re equally needed in Europe and other
affected by the effects of the trans-Atlantic financial system.

SCHLANGER:  This just highlights the difficulty of existing
in between two paradigms:  On the one side you have the old
geopolitical, unilateralist paradigm, which is an imperial
paradigm, of war, of proxy wars, of false flags, of terrorism, of
bail-outs, of austerity; and that’s being rejected by the world’s
population.  But we haven’t yet seen the full consolidation of
the New Paradigm, and that’s what the work of the Schiller
Institute has been from the beginning, to bring this New Paradigm
into existence.
On that, also the Iran situation is sort of hanging between
these two paradigms; it’s not clear where that’s going.  But,
Helga, there’s been some discussion among Europeans as to whether
or not the agreement can be salvaged.  What do you know about

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  Well, the Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif
travelled to China; he travelled to Russia and then to Brussels,
because all of these countries — that, is Russia, China, Germany
France, and Great Britain, and the EU basically have stated that
they want to try with all possible means to maintain the Iran
nuclear agreement, even if the United States pulled out
unilaterally.  It is not clear if that will function.  Naturally,
the fact that Russia and China are backing it is a very important
However, if the U.S. would impose secondary sanctions on
European firms that maintain business with Iran, I don’t know
what will happen:  Because the European Union foreign policy
representative Federica Mogherini said that they will pull out
some regulations which were voted in, or accepted in the ’90s,
but they were never used, to protect such firms from sanctions.
Now, I have a hard time to imagine how that will function, given
the fact that international banks are operating internationally,
so if the United States would impose these secondary sanctions,
it could cause absolute havoc in the whole situation.
The Europeans have now said that they demand additional
negotiations with Iran, this time not concerning the nuclear
program, but concerning the Iranian missile program, which is
also something which President Trump had mentioned, and he said
all the time that he would come up with a better deal — well, I
hope that this better deal is a comprehensive solution for the
whole region.
We have discussed this many times, but I want to reiterate
it: That if you want to solve the problem in the Middle East, or
in Southwest Asia, you have to take into account the security
interests of every country and every single party, and that
emphatically includes not only Israel, but it includes Iran, it
includes the Palestinians; it includes every country.  And
equally important is that you need to have economic development:
You have right now several situations which are turning into a
nightmare.  One is Yemen.  You know, you have {the} largest
humanitarian catastrophe of the planet right now taking place in
Yemen.   You have the situation in the Gaza Strip. And naturally,
you have all the areas which have been destroyed by these wars:
The situation in Afghanistan remains quite out of control, even
so, there are hopeful signs that this could be turned around.
Now, what you need, is, if you have a very complex situation
like that  — and obviously, the many things which have happened,
the terrorisms, many wars — emotions are hurt, people have an
incredible accumulated rage:  You need something big, and the
only way how you could get it, is if you had all the neighbors,
Russia, China, India, Iran, Egypt, the United States, and
hopefully European nations all agreeing that the only way how
this can be solved, is, you have to have the extension of the New
Silk Road into the region and develop every country as part one,
integrated, industrial infrastructure development program.
There are already the beginnings of that.  When President Xi
Jinping was  three years ago in Iran, he agreed already with
President Rouhani at the time, that the New Silk Road would be
extended into Iran.  You had the Afghanistan President demanding
that the New Silk Road should be applied in Afghanistan; and at
the recent Wuhan meeting of President Xi Jinping and India’s
Prime Minister Modi, they agreed that China and India would
cooperate in bringing the Silk Road into Afghanistan, by
building, as a first step, a large train connection between
Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyrzstan, Iran, China, and that way
start to connect Afghanistan to the Silk Road.
That same approach must be taken for Iraq, for Syria, for
the situation in Yemen, and naturally Egypt will have to play a
very important role as a bridge between Asia and Africa.  I think
Egypt is absolutely thinking in this direction, already.  And
however, naturally, these are gigantic projects and they cannot
be done by any one country alone; even if China has a special
envoy for Syria, they have said they want to play a leading role
in the reconstruction of Syria.  You have the earlier commitment
of Russia to supply energy, of Iran to help in the industrial
development.  But that needs to be presented as a comprehensive
And I’m sure that there are people in Israel, as well, who
will not agree with the present course of Netanyahu — who, by
the way, faces his own problems and may look into not such a
bright future for his own political career — but there are
people in Israel who agree, that you need to come out of this
terrible paradigm of the present configuration.  And if there
would be an agreement, between Trump, Xi Jinping, Putin and Modi,
and then other leaders joining with them, to go in this
direction, even this very difficult situation of Southwest Asia
could be approached and a solution could be found.  But it does
require an extraordinary intervention.

SCHLANGER:  And just to inform our new viewers, and as well
as to remind our regular viewers, we produced that blueprint, the
report that we’ve done on the New Silk Road coming into Africa
and West Asia, and that’s available through the Schiller
Institute. [“Extending the New Silk Road to West Asia and Africa:
A Vision of an Economic Renaissance”
] And it is a comprehensive picture of what the Chinese have
proposed, and what they’re actually already doing, moving the
earth, creating jobs, educating people, and doing the job
training that’s necessary.
As long as we’re continuing to review the danger spots,
there’s one other one that won’t go away, and that’s the
situation in Ukraine, where you had just this week the raid on
the offices of RIA Novosti; you have various kinds of threats
coming from Poroshenko, and the neo-Nazis in the security
agencies in Ukraine.
You also have this very interesting development of a new
bridge opening connecting Russia to Crimea, and this being a
cause for some wild Ukrainian fascists, calling for blowing up
the bridge because this is an attack on Ukrainian independence.
Helga, what’s the situation on the ground as far as you can
see in Ukraine right now?

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  This raid on the offices of RIA Novosti is
very serious, because they arrested the office chief Kirill
Vyshinsky; they compared RIA Novosti with Goebbels — I mean,
talking about the free press, you can really say that in Ukraine
right now, the situation is quite dire.
Mrs. Merkel, the German Chancellor, will go to Sochi, Russia
to meet with Putin and this will be one of the subjects of
discussion; naturally, the other crisis spots as well.  So, I
think if one could somehow put pressure that the Minsk Agreement
is being put back on the table, which right now it is obviously
not, because Kiev is absolutely not cooperating, and you have the
law by Poroshenko to solve the situation in East Ukraine by
military means.  So this is definitely another extremely
dangerous situation.
But, because it is so dangerous, I think more people are
waking up to that, and that may be a first step to hopefully
prevent something which could easily become World War III.

SCHLANGER:  And the Ukraine issue brings up another aspect
of Russiagate.  I was just doing some review of this in the last
couple of days, and I noticed something that I had forgotten,
which is that John Brennan, the former CIA director who is at the
center of much of the operation of Russiagate against Trump, that
Brennan had made a secret trip to Kiev shortly after the
overthrow of Yanukovych, and put in motion U.S. support for the
criminal regime that came in.  So this new discussion coming up
around Brennan in the Mueller, this is quite interesting what
Sen. Rand Paul brought up.
Helga, do you think this adds to the weight against Mueller?
The judges are turning against him, there are exposés of the FBI
and overall corruption.  Where is this thing heading?  Why hasn’t
it been shut down by now?

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  I think it could be shut down quickly,
because the latest twist is, I just read an article that Mueller
is now suspected of having had collusion with a Russian oligarch,
which I’d find a little bit humorous, if the situation weren’t so
But I think this letter by Sen. Rand Paul is really
important:  He wrote a letter to Gina Haspel, the newly nominated
head of the CIA, demanding that she should turn over all
information the CIA has, as to was there any investigation; did
the CIA bug the Presidential candidates in 2016, not just Trump
but every other candidate, as well? And did they work, given the
fact that the CIA is prohibited by law from surveilling
Americans, did they ask other intelligence services from other
countries to cooperate with them in doing that?  And I think he
hinted also to British intelligence directly.
And then, in an interview with NBC, he even went further,
and also brought up in this context, the visit by Robert
Hannigan, the then-head of GCHQ, the British equivalent of the
NSA, to the United States to brief Brennan about all of this.
So this is now coming out in the mainstream media that there
was such a collusion with British intelligence, and this is
really a very good thing, because obviously, this is completely
illegal, unconstitutional; it may be even criminal.  And the more
quickly these things are being followed up, the better.
Also Congressman Nunes, the head of the House Intelligence
Committee, basically said that it’s now 100% certain that there
was absolutely no collusion of the Trump team with Russia.  And
he said that given the fact that those who pretended that there
was such a collusion knew that it did not exist, why was this
whole operation instigated in the first place?
I think this question must be answered:  Because this was a
coup attempt against an elected President of the United States,
and it has shed light on exactly who are the forces of the Empire
— we call it the British Empire, because it is in the continuity
of the British Empire — but all the people who have come out
quickly against Trump on the side of those who accused, have also
shown their true colors.
So, if the United States should get back to its
constitutional form, there were demands that the entire FBI, and
Department of Justice must be cleaned out and reorganized afresh.
I think all of this is necessary.
And Trump must be freed from this, because this ongoing
situation is the only reason why the relationship with Russia,
with China, and naturally, in an indirect form in the Middle
East, why these situations are so dangerous.  If world peace is
supposed to be saved, the British coup must be uncovered
completely.  All the culprits must be held accountable.  And then
Trump can actually do what he promised he would do — and most of
it actually went in a good direction, and even some of the
critics have to see that.
However, the one Damocles Sword which is hanging over this
is the danger of a financial blowout. And we need to have this
debate on not only Glass-Steagall, but go to Hamiltonian
economics and apply the Four Laws of my husband, Lyndon LaRouche,
as an absolutely urgent matter of priority.

SCHLANGER:  And Helga, in conclusion, I’d like to pose
something to you, that comes back to this question of Hamiltonian
economics, which is, that as all of these war provocations are
progressing, as the British are pulling every string that they
have, the Chinese are continuing with very bold plans around the
New Silk Road.  The New Silk Road Spirit, as you called it, is
catching around the world.  And even the efforts of some who
sabotaged the U.S.-China relationship around trade, around
tariffs, and things of that sort, seems to be moving in a
potentially good direction, with the visit of another team of
Chinese officials to Washington.
How do you think this can affect the overall situation —
the Trump-Xi relationship?  Isn’t that really one of the keys to
breaking through the New Paradigm?

ZEPP-LAROUCHE:  Yes.  If the proposal by Li Keqiang, the
Chinese Prime Minister, would be taken up, that the way to
balance the trade between the United States and China is not by
imposing tariffs, but by increasing trade, by increasing
investments in third countries, that way it could be done in a
much more elegant way.  And there are plenty of opportunities:
The United States could join with China in investments in Latin
America; in, as I said already, the Middle East; other Asia
countries.  And there is a new Chinese offer now to India, that
rather than being a rival in African investment, that given the
fact that Chinese has a big expertise in building infrastructure,
where India is really lagging behind, that they should join
efforts, and India should bring in the kinds of things they can
do well, and China would provide the large-scale infrastructure
without which all of these investments don’t function.
Now, for the United States, they could also be a part of
that.  And I think that, to look at the world in a
non-geopolitical way — I know that this is almost impossible for
some people to imagine, because they are so trained that the
world is a zero-sum game, that if China rises, the United States
goes under — this is just not the case, the Chinese want to have
for the situation.  China has made many times the point that they
do not want to replace the United States as an unipolar, dominant
force, but they want to have a new type of relations among major
powers.  And that involves dramatically, the idea of joint
economic projects in third countries, joint ventures, and
re-define entirely how you go about it.
If you look at it from a longer arc of history, it is not
natural that people solve conflict with weapons or wars.  This
always what I call the infant diseases of mankind.  Like little
boys who kick each in the shins when they are four years old, or
even seven years old.  Eventually, you can become an adult, and
you have cherish the creative mind of the other person and work
together like Max Planck and Einstein; like Schiller and
Humboldt; you can have a relationship to other countries where
you address the creative potential of the other and that enriches
in turn, your own potential.
I think the future of humanity, which is after all the only
species capable of creative reason, of making fundamental
discoveries about universal principles of the physical universe,
again and again, and that way develop more knowledge about our
planet, the universe in which we are living, about the principles
of science and technology, which we then apply in the production
process which leads to an increase in productivity, which leads
to an increase in living standards, an increase in longevity, —
this is what we are!  We are not animals. We are human beings,
who are the only species, at least known so far, in the universe,
which can relate to their create power as their identity.
And if we take that approach, then, to have many nations,
and to have many cultures all based on their cultural tradition,
all based on their sovereignty, they can work together to a
higher level of reason, and that is the {only} way how mankind
will survive!  I think we are at a crossroads: If we decide to
stay with geopolitics, in this world, this will lead to World War
III, for all we know, the extinction of our species.  On the
other side, the New Paradigm is already working, 140 countries
are already cooperating, and I think we need a mass movement of
people who say, mankind has reached a new era and we must
consciously form our future, our “shared community for the future
of mankind,” as Xi Jinping always calls it.
I think we need a discussion on these.

SCHLANGER:  I think you just made a compelling case for
people to give up sleepwalking, and to instead catch the New Silk
Road Spirit.  So, Helga, until next week, thank you, and thank
you for joining us.
And take up this challenge, those you watching this:  Take
up the challenge to become active with the Schiller Institute.
Thank you, and see you next week.


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